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		<title>By: wii sports resort</title>
		<link>http://sidemission.com/index.php/finding-wii-games-for-adults-is-murder/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>wii sports resort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant wait for wii sports resort to come out. Looks awesome!</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An aside: Sega&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;House of the Dead: Overkill&lt;/strong&gt;, which I&#039;ve written about &lt;a href=&quot;http://31up.com/index.php/31ups-house-of-the-dead-overkill-review/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; at 31up, has been awarded a Guiness World Record for &quot;most swearing in a video game.&quot;  Anyone doubt that this will boost its sales? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An aside: Sega&#8217;s <strong>House of the Dead: Overkill</strong>, which I&#8217;ve written about <a href="http://31up.com/index.php/31ups-house-of-the-dead-overkill-review/">here</a> at 31up, has been awarded a Guiness World Record for &#8220;most swearing in a video game.&#8221;  Anyone doubt that this will boost its sales? <img src='http://sidemission.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chris vandergaag</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris vandergaag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BucketsOfBullets: great comments. I would love to see the ESRB ratings system expanded to differentiate &#039;adult&#039; (sex and violence) from adult (having some inherent appeal to adults).

It has occurred to me since I wrote this, that the &#039;conventional wisdom&#039; has for years held that adults are clueless and kids are in the know with regards to technology. When comparing the tech-literacy gap between myself (33) and my parents (mid-60s) I see this holding true to an extent... but it&#039;s been 30 years since Pong, and we&#039;ve grown up with computers. In the next decade or two we&#039;re going to become the first generation of fully tech-literate middleaged folk; teenagers will just have to discriminate against us on some other basis. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BucketsOfBullets: great comments. I would love to see the ESRB ratings system expanded to differentiate &#8216;adult&#8217; (sex and violence) from adult (having some inherent appeal to adults).</p>
<p>It has occurred to me since I wrote this, that the &#8216;conventional wisdom&#8217; has for years held that adults are clueless and kids are in the know with regards to technology. When comparing the tech-literacy gap between myself (33) and my parents (mid-60s) I see this holding true to an extent&#8230; but it&#8217;s been 30 years since Pong, and we&#8217;ve grown up with computers. In the next decade or two we&#8217;re going to become the first generation of fully tech-literate middleaged folk; teenagers will just have to discriminate against us on some other basis. <img src='http://sidemission.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BucketsOfBullets</title>
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		<dc:creator>BucketsOfBullets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this blog and the posts following the article, it appears that I was in position for a new perspective on game ratings.  I&#039;ve played games from the Atari to the current Wii &amp; PS3.  Historically, the rating (I believe) was established to ensure children were not purchasing games that were inappropriate for them.  Now....I see a different need in the game rating, or is it the rating that needs to be changed?  Overall, I feel the rating system works as well as it can and announces to the purchaser the amount of (negative) &quot;adult&quot; content in the game.  From my current perspective, I can view it being difficult to change or alter such a delicate and controlled rating.  However, the genre label of the games are ever changing.  How about a new category?  Yeah, we have RPG, FPS, RTS, etc.  What about a new genre for us that enjoy the original Marios, Sonics, Donkey Kongs, or even Dig Dugs?  Currently, I have to research a game to find out if it&#039;s a first person or third person shooter.  Is it a Turn Based game or Real Time Strategy?  Is this a game that will please the new generations with precise button combinations, or grab the audience of us experienced gamers with a more classic style of controls..or both?  Overall, a new genre for classic game styles will direct our attention towards new games that we may have overlooked in the past, allowing us to continue to experience the gameplay we enjoy without having to plug in the old NES and beat the same boss we&#039;ve defeated for the last 20 years!

One suggestion would be to put the genre label next to the ESRB rating.  This could help categorize games for consumer review, however, (like everything else) there&#039;s pros and cons to this idea and would ultimately come down to the Marketing/Sales department of the company to decide if it would be finacially benficial to make this change/update.  

To sum things up, maybe it&#039;s not the rating that we should be reviewing (since we&#039;re adults and we&#039;re not censoring ourselves), maybe it&#039;s a genre that needs to be established.  Then, the games could be categorized according to demand and we would look in the right direction for the games we want to purchase.  

It&#039;s just one perspective to weigh against the many others out there.  One thing I have learned from personal experience is it&#039;s very difficult to find a game my wife likes better than the Marios and Sonics.  I feel that a genre of new games based on the classic gameplay would bring in revenue not currently being tapped while keeping programming costs low.  Same gameplay, updated graphics and levels, new category of purchasers.  In theory, it sounds like great idea, but it has to be profitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this blog and the posts following the article, it appears that I was in position for a new perspective on game ratings.  I&#8217;ve played games from the Atari to the current Wii &amp; PS3.  Historically, the rating (I believe) was established to ensure children were not purchasing games that were inappropriate for them.  Now&#8230;.I see a different need in the game rating, or is it the rating that needs to be changed?  Overall, I feel the rating system works as well as it can and announces to the purchaser the amount of (negative) &#8220;adult&#8221; content in the game.  From my current perspective, I can view it being difficult to change or alter such a delicate and controlled rating.  However, the genre label of the games are ever changing.  How about a new category?  Yeah, we have RPG, FPS, RTS, etc.  What about a new genre for us that enjoy the original Marios, Sonics, Donkey Kongs, or even Dig Dugs?  Currently, I have to research a game to find out if it&#8217;s a first person or third person shooter.  Is it a Turn Based game or Real Time Strategy?  Is this a game that will please the new generations with precise button combinations, or grab the audience of us experienced gamers with a more classic style of controls..or both?  Overall, a new genre for classic game styles will direct our attention towards new games that we may have overlooked in the past, allowing us to continue to experience the gameplay we enjoy without having to plug in the old NES and beat the same boss we&#8217;ve defeated for the last 20 years!</p>
<p>One suggestion would be to put the genre label next to the ESRB rating.  This could help categorize games for consumer review, however, (like everything else) there&#8217;s pros and cons to this idea and would ultimately come down to the Marketing/Sales department of the company to decide if it would be finacially benficial to make this change/update.  </p>
<p>To sum things up, maybe it&#8217;s not the rating that we should be reviewing (since we&#8217;re adults and we&#8217;re not censoring ourselves), maybe it&#8217;s a genre that needs to be established.  Then, the games could be categorized according to demand and we would look in the right direction for the games we want to purchase.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one perspective to weigh against the many others out there.  One thing I have learned from personal experience is it&#8217;s very difficult to find a game my wife likes better than the Marios and Sonics.  I feel that a genre of new games based on the classic gameplay would bring in revenue not currently being tapped while keeping programming costs low.  Same gameplay, updated graphics and levels, new category of purchasers.  In theory, it sounds like great idea, but it has to be profitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news for gamers, Pac-Man is turning 30 and it&#039;s getting a makeover.  

I like the old school games Mario &amp; Sonic, but I do enjoy Black Hawk Striker and a few others games like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news for gamers, Pac-Man is turning 30 and it&#8217;s getting a makeover.  </p>
<p>I like the old school games Mario &amp; Sonic, but I do enjoy Black Hawk Striker and a few others games like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Perturbed by petioles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perturbed by petioles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear blogger: love your blog but I take exception to your implication about turnips not being dangerous. a turnip once assaulted me. Also, celery stalks at midnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear blogger: love your blog but I take exception to your implication about turnips not being dangerous. a turnip once assaulted me. Also, celery stalks at midnight.</p>
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		<title>By: Samas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently been playing The Dig lately (ScummVM FTW!) and I have to say I&#039;m enjoying it a lot more now as an almost 30-year-old than I ever did as an adolescent. Sure, younger gamers can play sophisticated point-and-click adventure/puzzle games just as much as the next person, but do they really appreciate them as much as us adults?

There&#039;s no blood and guts in The Dig. No foul language. There is a death, pretty early on actually. I doubt this game would receive anything higher than a T to the ESRB (can&#039;t remember if they were around in &#039;94), but does that mean it&#039;s best played by teens? Does M for Mature mean all these games are targeted to adults? Doubtful. House of the Dead Overkill looks like complete schlock to me, as does Madworld. That doesn&#039;t make these games bad to those that enjoy that sort of thing, but it certainly doesn&#039;t make the game or the gamer that plays it any more &quot;mature&quot; just because of its rating.

It seems these days ratings have become the measuring stick for the audience, when it really should just be a guide. It took a while for the MPAA ratings to do that; no one would say that an R rating means ONLY adults can enjoy or understand the movie, just that any other audience should be cautioned by the content it contains. Still, the audience that actually wants R rated movies are those that technically can&#039;t see them, i.e. adolescents. Guess who are the ones that clamor for M rated games? An adult can enjoy all sorts of content no matter what the rating, but it seems an M rating does not equal adult tastes.

Katie, I feel your pain. I&#039;m not a woman and I agree (and game similarly) to your all points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently been playing The Dig lately (ScummVM FTW!) and I have to say I&#8217;m enjoying it a lot more now as an almost 30-year-old than I ever did as an adolescent. Sure, younger gamers can play sophisticated point-and-click adventure/puzzle games just as much as the next person, but do they really appreciate them as much as us adults?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no blood and guts in The Dig. No foul language. There is a death, pretty early on actually. I doubt this game would receive anything higher than a T to the ESRB (can&#8217;t remember if they were around in &#8217;94), but does that mean it&#8217;s best played by teens? Does M for Mature mean all these games are targeted to adults? Doubtful. House of the Dead Overkill looks like complete schlock to me, as does Madworld. That doesn&#8217;t make these games bad to those that enjoy that sort of thing, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t make the game or the gamer that plays it any more &#8220;mature&#8221; just because of its rating.</p>
<p>It seems these days ratings have become the measuring stick for the audience, when it really should just be a guide. It took a while for the MPAA ratings to do that; no one would say that an R rating means ONLY adults can enjoy or understand the movie, just that any other audience should be cautioned by the content it contains. Still, the audience that actually wants R rated movies are those that technically can&#8217;t see them, i.e. adolescents. Guess who are the ones that clamor for M rated games? An adult can enjoy all sorts of content no matter what the rating, but it seems an M rating does not equal adult tastes.</p>
<p>Katie, I feel your pain. I&#8217;m not a woman and I agree (and game similarly) to your all points.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just found that while Gamespot and ign have really comprehensive information about gameas in general (I personally always check those sites to see how a game was rated), none of the information is tailored specifically to older gamers (or to women for that matter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just found that while Gamespot and ign have really comprehensive information about gameas in general (I personally always check those sites to see how a game was rated), none of the information is tailored specifically to older gamers (or to women for that matter).</p>
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		<title>By: Skullkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skullkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya I mostly just have to ask the guy at Gamestop what games are good lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya I mostly just have to ask the guy at Gamestop what games are good lol</p>
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		<title>By: Katie bo batie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie bo batie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this list of &#039;M&#039; games applies mostly to male adult players.  I&#039;m a female adult who still loves to play, and for me it&#039;s Mario games and the like that hold the most fun.  Those are like the games I loved when I was younger, and they are what I still enjoy.  You know, the basic &#039;run, jump, smash&#039; games. 

I got out of playing video games when they started to all be fighting and killing games.  I.e. the ones where most girls resort to &#039;button mashing&#039;.  I love Nintendo games because they appeal to my desire to play a more technically simple, aesthetically pleasing (bright colours!) and peaceful games. 

I&#039;m certainly not trying to speak for all women, but I imagine a great deal of women (who still enjoy playing video games) would feel the same.  We&#039;re not the target audience for systems like Xbox, but Nintendo has a following. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this list of &#8216;M&#8217; games applies mostly to male adult players.  I&#8217;m a female adult who still loves to play, and for me it&#8217;s Mario games and the like that hold the most fun.  Those are like the games I loved when I was younger, and they are what I still enjoy.  You know, the basic &#8216;run, jump, smash&#8217; games. </p>
<p>I got out of playing video games when they started to all be fighting and killing games.  I.e. the ones where most girls resort to &#8216;button mashing&#8217;.  I love Nintendo games because they appeal to my desire to play a more technically simple, aesthetically pleasing (bright colours!) and peaceful games. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly not trying to speak for all women, but I imagine a great deal of women (who still enjoy playing video games) would feel the same.  We&#8217;re not the target audience for systems like Xbox, but Nintendo has a following. <img src='http://sidemission.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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